thanks for these..good to watch.
A must see for all Americans.
Know it before you need it.
I would post something witty, but I'm afraid that the police would use it against me, in a court of law.
Thanks for the post, I sent it to some family and friends.
I will NOT talk to the cops!!!!!!
I am hopng to have Mr. Magee to my talking!!!!!!!
These videos are invaluable for anybody and everybody. In my humble opinion, IMHO, they should be shown in 10th grade high school civics class. The fact that they are not, is a shame.
I USED to tell my children cops were your friends- talk with them...
Now I'll tell them to watch these videos and be informed.
Watched the videos last night and my mom was watching them as I walked into her house today! Great post!
(11-10-2008 08:36 PM)ArmedLamb Wrote: [ -> ]I USED to tell my children cops were your friends- talk with them...
Now I'll tell them to watch these videos and be informed.
That's actually not bad advice for them, up to about age 14 or 15. After that, start showing them the way things are.
For a young child, though, it's better that they go to a uniformed police officer if they are having a problem than to a random stranger on the street.
My take:
Exercising your Fifth Amendment rights is arguably the best protection against being arrested, charged and convicted of a crime you
a) Would not have been convicted of if you had remained silent
b) A crime you were unaware you had committed.
c) A crime you did NOT commit but can be convicted of due to circumstances, faulty police procedure or even malicious police procedure.
This is a hard truth for folks to realize though... We all want to "be the *good* guy".. And LEO's capitalize on that phenomenon (I think the officer in the video mentions that in part II). Desiring to be the good guy can cause you to be the bad guy in the end.
Resist the urge.
As for children, I agree with Dobie. Teach your kids the police are their friend.... up until they are late teens/young adults. Then the info in this thread applies.
Realizing that if 1 out of every thousand police is a bad cop, or will even with good intentions cause you to be convicted due to misunderstandings like illustrated in this vid the 5th amendment is our "seatbelt" in this scenario.
It doesn't hurt anything and can save you in that 1 in a thousand encounter.
This is really good advice and something that should be taught to your kids at an appropriate age.
Since most of my encounters with the police have been because of something being done against me (car accidents, vandalism, whatnot's), I have always given as much information as possible. Maybe that is wrong in some kind of way, but it has helped to remedy most of the problems.
I was taught a long time ago, if you are involved in a legal shooting, once the police arrive, if you called them, these should be the only words out of your mouth. Officer I called, This person tried to harm me, I will answer any of your questions, as soon as I talk to my lawyer. Say no more and no less. You are letting him know you are the victim and are willing to explain what happened but you are not stupid enough to get fooled.
Good info. Thanks for posting.
I was talking to a co-worker a little while ago about a police stop he had. He felt he was targeted because of his car and his age. I sent him the link to this and he is now much more aware of his rights and hopefully be able to handle any more encounters better. I keep asking him, "What do you do when stopped?"and his answer is now "Don't talk to the police".
ETA: He has sent it on to a few friends of his.
Excellent video! It really opened my eyes and in the presence of police, shut my mouth.
Thanks for posting this!
Don
Please keep in mind that if involved in any shooting incident that self-defense or justified use is an affirmative defense and the "right to remain silent" does not completely apply. You have to raise the issue/defense immediately or else your silence can be used against you in any court hearing/trial. The police/DA will make it seem like you "invented" the defense after the fact.
However, as previously stated, you only make a short, definitive statement that you "acted in self-defense" and were "in fear of your safety/life" and do not add any further details until you consult with an attorney.
(11-30-2010 08:57 PM)GatorDude Wrote: [ -> ]Please keep in mind that if involved in any shooting incident that self-defense or justified use is an affirmative defense and the "right to remain silent" does not completely apply. You have to raise the issue/defense immediately or else your silence can be used against you in any court hearing/trial. The police/DA will make it seem like you "invented" the defense after the fact.
Citation of law to affirm the above please...
